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Michael @michael-rollo
I noticed in the transcript of the working group meeting of 23 June that you wrote a paper on measuring complexity in projects
Is it possible to get a copy please or, if it has already been posted on here can you point me at it?
Thanks
Steve
Up::0Thanks Davin
I know Chivonne
She has an open mind and is constantly searching for fresh ideas in this area
Up::0Hoping to make it to the next meeting – all being well
The survey letter looks good – minimalist and open ended
Up::0I apologise for missing the meeting today
I seem to be the only one in my family who is in reasonable health and I’ve been snowed with that and work
See you next time I hope
Steve
Up::1Some might have seen this on LinkedIn
Nothing revolutionary but a useful little thought starter and possibly a challenge for anyone who claims their work is not complex
Up::1Richard
Not exactly what you are looking for but this might help
https://broadleaf.com.au/resource-material/showing-that-effective-risk-management-adds-value/
Like Ian, I would look towards benchmarking for guidance
That is effectively what the data sets shown here do, using the coarse metric of quartiles of business performance
If you want the client to take it on board, you might ask them to judge BOTH the quality and quantity of resourcing for these functions relative to good practice and then contrast their answers with any objective information you can find as well as with your views based on experience
Up::1Sorry I couldn’t make it
Complex emergent bahaviour in a client’s project spilled over into my timetable
Up::1I’ve been having trouble keeping up with the homework and will have to read Ian’s paper properly later
In the meantime, this popped into my LinkedIn feed. I know the author is worth watching and on a quick scan it looked useful so I’m passing it on.
https://complexityfit.com/2022/05/04/habits-of-mind-that-help-build-complexity-fitness/
See you in the morning
Up::1This fits with some of Snowden’s writing about the need to resurrect the idea of craft and apprenticeship and apply them to knowledge work, not only the trades and manual skills in which the concept was founded
Up::0I followed Flyvbjerg’s work for a while but I’ve gone off it
He describes real phenomena that are compelling and make good headlines, or the academic equivalent
I came to see his advice as being “We know all mega projects over run by X% so add X% to your estimate before you start”
This does nothing to draw attention to the areas where effort might limit the propensity to exceed the budget – a counsel of despair “We are doomed so we might as well get used to it”
It’s an attitude that I feel will undermine commitment to maintain to good performance – not completely but softening it by suggesting that some loss of control is inevitable. That might be true but it’s hardly going to stiffen the backbone of a project team
Hollmann has written critiques of Flyvbjerg, one of which I saved in the paper attached. I don’t have the paper by Drs. Love and Ahiaga-Dagbui to which Hollmann refers but I will attach a later paper by Love et al in a later post as there is a two attachment limit on these messages. Love et al discuss the point at which “The Estimate” is declared and conclude that a valid comparison between actual and estimated costs is best made based on the cost agreed when a contract is signed.
The second attachment here is another paper by Flyvbjerg that might be of interest
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You must be logged in to view attached files.Up::0Attention to keeping options open is not always seen as a useful strategy but rather as a sign of indecision and not having a clear way forward
If I get the chance, I like to see it given weight in any decision
Not so much maintaining multiple options in play, although there are times when that is useful, but avoiding closing off options if we don’t need to
What that entails is context dependent
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